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Jokelly
Barking

USA
1509 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2006 :  18:22:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
JKRiS, my bee sting is fine now. By the end of the second day the soreness went away. An armpit is just a nasty place to get stung, although I can think of worse places.

Usually when we drive from Pennsylvania to Florida we break it up into two days, although you could do one. We usually go about 7 or 8 hours and stop in South Carolina, have dinner, get a motel room for the night and then take off early the next day. We used to make the 3 hours trip to Sea World in Ohio (no longer there) as a day trip. That was a tiring day. Three hours there, walk around the park all day, then three hours more at night.

Dobbygirl, I did 14 hours last year on a Greyhound and it's not an experience I want to repeat but something everyone has to do once in their life. There are such strange people who ride it but some perfectly normal (not many). Let me just say that being in a Greyhound terminal at 3am in Knoxsville, TN is an experience. Especially when you're a female alone.

On of my dream vacations, which to some would be a torturous hell, would be to take a month or two and drive across the U.S. My cousin is doing it right now with her sister, in a $200,000 RV, and is having a great time. But then so would I if I had that RV, which I think is bigger than my house.

AMC, fringe does sound neater than bangs. More stylish somehow. When people mention bangs the usually think of those Aqua Net masses from the 80s. My sister perfected that look, but my fine straight hair couldn't handle it.

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Bee
Mediwizard

846 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2006 :  18:58:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, you guys have been on some long road-trips! Would it not be cheaper to fly, or are domestic flights expensive in the US? I know people who fly from coast to coast here rather than go by road, and my country is pretty teeny. It's not much more expensive than the train though (sometimes cheaper, I believe), and it's so handy.

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AMC
Mediwizard

1710 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2006 :  19:35:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bee, I think the "road trip" is a true American experience - some people hate them, to others it's the ultimate in vacation freedom. I don't like truly marathon drives but I love to drive, especially if the roads are scenic. We'll go to Utah and Colorado again this summer - we drive about 900 miles in 2 days, then stay there a week and make our way back more slowly. The scenery is superb and we know lots of fun things to do - we stop and collect rocks or go on hikes. We're stopping one night and doing a day "float" trip down a river canyon.

But also, yes - it's much less expensive. For my family of 4 to fly to our vacation destination it would run somewhere over $2200 - and then we'd need to rent a car while we were there. Gas is expensive and our "travelling car" is a gas-guzzler but gas costs for the whole trip won't run more than $300, which is about what the rental car alone would cost.


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Jokelly
Barking

USA
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Posted - 08/02/2006 :  19:44:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bee, I know flights out of Pittsburgh are outrageous. For a family it's often cheaper to drive. It's also quicker to drive than fly if it's within 4 hours distance. It takes an hour to drive to the airport, you have to show up at least an hour before your flight, time on the plane, go through all the security on and off, luggage, then get a rental car or cab to your hotel. By the time you go through all that you could have been to your destination. I remember one time my mom had to go to a conference in Harrisburg, a 3 hour drive from where I live. She and two others flew. The guy that drove was waiting at the airport for them. He got there before they did and this was before 9/11 and all the safety regulations. Plus, you see so much more of the country driving. I have been to so many off-the-beaten-road places, just because we didn't fly. That's part of the fun.

Train is the most expensive travel option, and most time consuming. Unless you're going on a scenic railroad vacation, I wouldn't recommend it.

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Posted - 08/02/2006 :  20:16:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We've driven the 14-15 hours from Ohio to Florida, too, as well as 14 hours to Myrtle Beach several times. If more than two people are making the trip, driving is much cheaper, plus you don't have to hassle with airports, shuttles and baggage checks, etc. We've been lucky to be able to fly a lot too, but that's only because my husband builds up so many fequent flyer miles through work that we get free tickets. For me the drive/fly breakpoint is about 800 miles. Below 800, I'd drive, but over 800 I prefer to fly because the reduced travel time begins to balance out the hassles.

From our hometown we could drive 1000+ miles west, 1000 miles south, 700 miles east, and hmmm, maybe four-five hours (?) north to Canada via Detroit. When you consider the distances involved in crossing our country alone, it's easier to understand why such a low percentage of Americans hold passports and speak other languages fluently. If you think it's difficult to escape American culture overseas, try living here!

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MrBen
Barmy

Australia
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Posted - 08/03/2006 :  01:35:16  Show Profile  Visit MrBen's Homepage  Send MrBen an AOL message  Click to see MrBen's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It must be said that americans love to drive. Australia's biggest cities are all in the south and the east. Anything northwest is not somewhere you tend to find yourself (although I think "find yourself" might be part of the tourism campaign for one of those states). Melbourne to Sydney would probably be 10 hours in the car. Approximately the same for Melbourne to Adelaide (the City of Churches!)
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diricawl
Looney

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/03/2006 :  15:06:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Gas is expensive


Every time an American says that, the words "six dollars a gallon" pop into my head. That's how much gas costs in the UK

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Jokelly
Barking

USA
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Posted - 08/03/2006 :  15:15:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But we also have no real alternative forms of transportation. At least Europeans have a choice in travel. Everything is so widespread in the U.S. and public transportation outside the cities is noexistant.

It's funny that PA, where the first oil well was ever drilled, still has oil in its reserves but cannot be used because of the protection laws. Some parts of the state the oil is so pure that it can be used for cooking.

Oil is $.07/gallon in Venezuela. Wouldn't those prices be great. I was watching an interview with inventor Dean Kamen (if you know about him he created the Segway, dialysis equipment, and many other things) is currently working on a water-based engine and is constantly receiving death threats because of his work. If anyone will find something, it will probably be him.

Lately they've been wanting to start windfarms around to produce electricity, but strangely the environmentalists are the ones blocking this. It's a clean way to produce electricity but some groups, rumored to be paid off by big oil companies, are protesting and holding them up in court because the windmills will kill birds that fly into them.

It's too hot to do anything. The large marquee at the bank in town reads 100F. And we were supposed to cool down today.

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Newguise
Barmy

United Kingdom
269 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2006 :  15:42:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I'm interested in doing that too, someday, money permitting. How does one go about prepping for a trip like that?



It takes less prep than you'd imagine.

1) Go to Thomas Cook and buy the guide (about 10 six years ago) which is the train timetable for the whole of Europe. Seriously, it exists and it is accurate.

2) Then buy your 'Zones' ticket from a travel shop such as STA (they give you a map which shows you which countries fall into which zones) and get yourself to a location within one of your zones.

3) Catch any train you want and Go!

4) I do recommend having the relevant lonely planet guides. Booking hostels ahead is also an option.

I planned an entire month in two hours. And did it too, all 8 countries. Best experience of my life.

The furthest I've ever driven is puny by comparison, under three hours from the Midlands to the Lake District. I obviously suck. Maybe I should jump in my car and head for Scotland.

Just to answer AMC about two pages ago, our earwigs have pincers on their arses, which lock shut if they feel like doing it. I remember my mum yelling in pain with this thing hanging of her finger, and my Dad in fits of laughter. She was not amused...

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Newguise
Barmy

United Kingdom
269 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2006 :  15:49:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
O.K. Just thought I'd warn everyone that I may need horticultural support over the next three weeks. My parents are going to Canada and I am now in the possession of two of my Mum's plants. These were given to her by a friend who died just over a year ago, so they must survive. I will have to google later on and try and find out what they are (!) I know I have to water them every couple of days, but I'm so bad with plants I'm a bit jumpy. Other Half thinks they are starting to look peaky already - they've only been here an hour!

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dobbygirl
Barmy

USA
300 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2006 :  18:10:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Dobbygirl, I did 14 hours last year on a Greyhound and it's not an experience I want to repeat but something everyone has to do once in their life. There are such strange people who ride it but some perfectly normal (not many). Let me just say that being in a Greyhound terminal at 3am in Knoxsville, TN is an experience. Especially when you're a female alone.



Oh I did have my good experiences with Greyhound. Like the three nice guys I met on my Vegas/home trip. They had a boombox and when the bus was empty they blared it. Also I arrived in Chicago 10 minutes late to catch my connecting bus. Two employees helped me immensely. One took me in the back to make sure I had all my luggage while the other called ahead to Milwaukee to put a hold on my bus until I got there (I hopped on the Express to catch up to it).

I would LOVE to take a cross country trip on a train. You get to see a lot of scenery and you don't have to worry about driving. I actually have been to a foreign country, if Canada counts. I only live 3 hours from the border.

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When you consider the distances involved in crossing our country alone, it's easier to understand why such a low percentage of Americans hold passports and speak other languages fluently. If you think it's difficult to escape American culture overseas, try living here!


Pesky, Michigan is trying to pass legislation that would make our requirements for driver's licenses tougher so they're good as a passport, for passage into Canada anyway. Soon, you're going to need a passport even to get to and from Canada, and some think this would just be easier. Personally, I'm all for it.

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AMC
Mediwizard

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Posted - 08/04/2006 :  19:33:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I LOVE the Thomas Cook Train Schedule book - I have an old one and sometimes I get it out and just dream about where I'd go! But I also love train travel, I went through Europe by rail as a teen with a friend and did another train tour just in the UK/Scotland and Ireland. Sigh. A Eurail pass and unlimited free time is my idea of heaven.



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MrBen
Barmy

Australia
284 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2006 :  22:21:27  Show Profile  Visit MrBen's Homepage  Send MrBen an AOL message  Click to see MrBen's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
For some reason I have this terribly romantic notion of train travel even though I haven't ever been in a sleep-in carriage. I don't know if I can lay the blame at the foot of North By Northwest or just some crazy idea. As a child I was on a few train journeys and they were never quite as sexy as I imagine them now. Go figger.
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Jokelly
Barking

USA
1509 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2006 :  00:26:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a train trip through the South that I'd love to go on. It takes a few weeks and ends in Washington D.C. I can't remember where it starts, maybe New Orleans. They stop at all these historical places along the way.

Newguise, I have no idea how to take care of container plants. I usually end up killing them. I'm okay if they're planted in the ground, but otherwise I'm useless.

Dobbygirl, it's strange how you end up bonding with people traveling with you on a Greyhound. I did meet some very strange ones that I tried to ignore, but there were some who I talked to all night. All the buses on my route were filed up completely so I had to share the whole time. I never got a seat to myself. I even got offered to be "hooked up" by some 19 year old with his friends. He thought I was around his age, which I guess I should take as a compliment considering I'm ten years older than that. But I declined. It was just a exhausting trip, although dirt cheap.

I have shorter hair again. It's about chin length and I have a thin layer of bangs that I can hide if I get sick of them. I actually wanted heavier bangs, but this is better because I'm not used to having them after not having them for awhile.

I went to the casino tonight. I didn't win anything, as usual. But I did come back even, so I figure it was a good night.

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Theowyn
Looney

1078 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2006 :  01:18:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I want to take the train across Canada or through Alaska. That I think would be spectacular scenary and certainly not something I would ever drive. Sleeping on a train is lovely! I took an over-night train from Moscow to Leningrad (St. Petersberg) when I traveled through Europe and the motion of the train rocked me right off to sleep.

Nuggy, I'm sure your mum's plants aren't dying already! Do you know what kind of environment they were in at her house - i.e. sitting in a sunny window or in a dark corner? As long as you keep them in similar surroundings and water them in moderation, they should make it. And if you think plants are bad, a few years ago we watched my parents dog when they went away for two weeks - and it died!

Not pleasant. At least plants can usually be revived.

PS: Nuggy, did you get my email?

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AMC
Mediwizard

1710 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2006 :  10:44:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Eeek! Theo, that's dreadful!

Nuggy, sometimes people move plants in hot cars or open trucks and they get stressed by the move, so I'd just do as Theo says and treat them kindly and calmly - you can't make them live, you can just give them the opportunity!


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Bee
Mediwizard

846 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2006 :  11:47:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Woo hoo! I did it! And I survived! It was a four hour trip to where the reception was being held, and another hour and a half to the church. I rock! I also FILLED MY CAR WITH PETROL. Sort of. My friend helped. Actually, she did most of it. But I'm learning!

Such progress.

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dobbygirl
Barmy

USA
300 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2006 :  21:12:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I went to the casino tonight. I didn't win anything, as usual. But I did come back even, so I figure it was a good night.



That's quite the accomplishment. When I do gamble (yes, employees are allowed to do that with some restrictions), I rarely come out even, let alone win. I love the customers that ask where the "good" machines are. Really, if I knew that, would I be working?

Way to go Bee! And don't feel too bad, my mom's almost 60 and she doesn't really know how to pump gas/petrol. She always goes to a full service station or has my sister do it.

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Myf
Confunded

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Posted - 08/05/2006 :  21:23:39  Show Profile  Visit Myf's Homepage  Click to see Myf's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
*waves* I am still alive. But really quite busy. Today is the first time in ages I've had a proper surf around in the web and check all my favourite pages.

Um, what to say? I don't really have any news. I'm such a nerd that I have a meeting with my supervisor today (on a Sunday!) so I have to get some work done today: sadface.

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Eeyore
Barmy

USA
311 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2006 :  01:05:22  Show Profile  Send Eeyore a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I'm still here. I've been trying to sort out the pics and put some on photobucket but the sizing is still wrong on some. And then I've added a page to my web site, but it's just a beginning and still needs more work.

Anyway, here's a link to the photos (the password is--big surprise here: eeyore , then click on the "Lumos 2006" album ):

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v170/hollylawrence/

Jo should really enjoy the Weasley's Wizard Wheezes house--fantastic in the detail. They were selling it for $2500--don't know if they did, as we had to leave early Sunday morning before the silent auction. The quilts were really cool too.

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Jokelly
Barking

USA
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Posted - 08/06/2006 :  02:01:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Was there an attractive Remus there, Eeyore? If so, you should have stolen him and shipped him to PA.

Eeyore, that's the Harrison! Which I know means nothing to you guys, but it's a common kit by the company Greenleaf. http://www.miniatures.com/hbs/global/Index2.asp?T=shopping&S=products&I=aa_ProductDetail.asp&PRODUCTSKU=58006And bit overpriced, but they did a fantastic job with it. I'd say maybe it was worth $750 with all the work put into it. Maybe $1,000 at the most. It's so hard to price built dollhouses because it's so subjective.

I've found on some site, that I can't recall at the moment, someone did a miniature version of Hogwarts' staircases. It's fantastic. There is also a miniaturist artisan who holds classes to build Diagon Alley shops. Amazing work, but the price to get into his class is outrageous.

I've got this kit sitting at home unopened and likely to stay that way for awhile. http://www.miniatures.com/hbs/global/Index2.asp?T=shopping&S=products&I=aa_ProductDetail.asp&PRODUCTSKU=9302 I have too many other projects that I'm not working on. I haven't done anything miniature in a few months. It just takes up so much space and right now I'm short on room. When I finally get to it I may do something like the woodland cottage in Sleeping Beauty or a witch's cottage. I haven't decided.

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AMC
Mediwizard

1710 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2006 :  02:33:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay, Jo - I clicked on both of your links and thought Gosh, all these things look alike to me, must be some subtle differences I'm missing.. and then I noticed you linked the same model twice. I'm guessing we're both tired.


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Jokelly
Barking

USA
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Posted - 08/06/2006 :  02:47:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I fixed the links. I did post the same one twice by accident. It wasn't your eyes, it was mine. Maybe I shouldn't post this late at night. I'm off to sleep.


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Siobhan
Chief Healer

USA
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Posted - 08/06/2006 :  11:23:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jo, I have the Glencroft http://www.greenleafdollhouses.com/Dollhouses/8001.htm. It's been sitting around waiting for me to finish it. It makes me feel frustrated and guilty everytime I have to move it in order to do something else.Also got a Christmas village that I'm not so sure what direction I'll go with once the houses are assembled. I'm suffering from unfinish-itis.

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Bee
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Posted - 08/06/2006 :  11:39:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for sharing your Lumos pictures, Eeyore - it looks great!

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Jokelly
Barking

USA
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Posted - 08/06/2006 :  12:31:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been eyeing the Glencroft for awhile, Siobhan. That website I linked to has a 50% off sale every April 1st and it's between the Glencroft and the Pierce next year. Yes, it's a weird hobby, but my mom's best friend got me into it. I go in spurts. Right now I'm not doing anything.

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Eeyore
Barmy

USA
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Posted - 08/07/2006 :  19:09:44  Show Profile  Send Eeyore a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, Jo, that was the one--the Harrison. The thing that amazed me was how well everything was done, especially the details inside the house--each floor was incredibly detailed and didn't look at all amateurish (as it would if I had attempted it). Especially all the things in the shop, with rows and rows of things. Later that afternoon/evening, they had the lights turned on, which made it even better, but it doesn't really show in a photo.

I tip my hat to all of you who have the patience to do that sort of thing; I can't even manage to get a broken arm glued back on a music box of Laura's.

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Jokelly
Barking

USA
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Posted - 08/08/2006 :  00:50:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Eeyore, it's not that hard once you do your first. I enjoy the woodworking part and even have my own miniature table saw, but I despise the wallpapering part. Right now I'm stopped on my current house because I'm at the wallpapering stage and I dread doing it. I make such a mess and end up ripping it all out. My miniature kitchen cabinets--that have fully functioning drawers and shelves--are easy to make, but I can't glue paper to the walls and make it look nice. The house has been tucked into the corner of my living room half done for 2 months now because I don't want to wallpaper. I have no desire to do it. I've forbidden myself to start any other project until I get that one done. So I've done nothing. I also have no room to work anymore. I'm just going to have to force myself to complete it because I have a tendency to never finish anything...I have a very short attention span and constantly want to do something else.

Here is a link to the miniature Hogwarts staircase. http://www.allthingsmini.com/magazine/mary_ann_stage_hogwarts_staircas.htm Click on the third picture down. It's amazing the details. I like the paintings and Fluffy in the doorway.



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AMC
Mediwizard

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Posted - 08/08/2006 :  11:57:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What's so hard about the wallpaper, Jo? Is it just that the room is so tiny or is the wallpaper itself hard to work with? Can you use Contact paper instead? It's much thinner.

Siobhan, are you in South Carolina? I just read a bit about the schools in SC and in what dreadful condition they are in - I was thinking I'd homeschool if I lived there... and that's saying something!


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Siobhan
Chief Healer

USA
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My mother has always wanted to make a miniature house. In fact she ended up doing one for an auction once, but has never made one for herself. In college I made up a couple of furniture kits (a dry sink and a tea table) Mum had for part of a paper in Early American Art 40something-or-other. The prof couldn't believe I went to such pains for my grade! I really enjoyed the sawing, sanding, gluing, staining, and finishing.

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